tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post1765442747611356744..comments2023-06-29T06:11:34.854-04:00Comments on AWV Archive: A defence of evolutionCall me Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17704646008578216859noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-91428566685875253172005-06-17T19:37:00.000-04:002005-06-17T19:37:00.000-04:00As a 6th grader at a Southern Baptist Church (majo...As a 6th grader at a Southern Baptist Church (major church, over 20,000 members) I was pulled to the side and "talked to" because I asked the following question in sunday school, when they were telling us "creationism=good" "evolution=bad". <br><br>Me: The bible tells us that men can understand God's mysterious ways, right?<br>Sunday School Teacher: Right.<br>Me: And the bible tells us that 1,000 years to man is a day to God and 1 day to man is a 1,000 years to God, right?<br>Sunday School Teacher: Right.<br>Me: So how do we know that God didn't use evolution to "create" the world?<br><br>From their reaction, you would have thought I'd said the words m***** f*****.<br>Nice entry Paul (not that we'd expect anything less!).<br><br>Chris<br>http://journals.aol.com/swibirun/Inanethoughtsandinsaneramblings<br>http://journals.aol.com/swibirun/MyJournalJarSaturdaySixetcanswerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-34334998583101192822005-06-17T20:51:00.000-04:002005-06-17T20:51:00.000-04:00I had a biblical "issue" come up in my w...I had a biblical "issue" come up in my world today, and actually believe I'm going to do the unthinkable, which is post a religion topic in my journal <scary touchy stuff> No need to apologize for being a long entry, I found it fascinating, interesting and educational. I hope it served it's purpose. I also hope this person was indeed pulling your leg.<br>On another note, your about me picture is unique and the best I've seen, most fitting for your journal :o)<br>Rebecca<br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-55873787388464542742005-06-17T21:42:00.000-04:002005-06-17T21:42:00.000-04:00I do not debate my religious beliefs with others, ...I do not debate my religious beliefs with others, but especially with friends for 2 reasons: 1. because I have too much respect for my religious beliefs, and 2. because I have too much respect for my friendship.<br>And thats all I'm going to say about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-41350670153680064822005-06-17T23:53:00.000-04:002005-06-17T23:53:00.000-04:00Great stuff! I haven't finished reading it ye...Great stuff! I haven't finished reading it yet, but only because I want to suggest a small correction before I forget:<br><br>"attempting to falsify the hypothesis"<br><br>You mean disprove the hypothesis. To falsify it would mean faking the result, which, of course, would be a bad thing.<br><br>Good luck with the whole friendship/blogging/religion thing. I've wrestled with that a few times myself, including on this very topic!<br><br>KarenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-66403431410859110232005-06-18T00:43:00.000-04:002005-06-18T00:43:00.000-04:00Very good entry Paul, you put your facts down in s...Very good entry Paul, you put your facts down in such a way as to be understood easily....some people do not want to believe what has been learned - heck I've met people recently who claimed that Hitler didn't do anything bad in WWI...that one had me banging my head against the wall.....SandiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-59784989756943648682005-06-18T05:26:00.000-04:002005-06-18T05:26:00.000-04:00what has always puzzled me ..if you believe we are...what has always puzzled me ..if you believe we are deacendents of apes ....why are there still apes? cmpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-10773274048173095472005-06-18T08:57:00.000-04:002005-06-18T08:57:00.000-04:00 Think of evolution like an upside down tree, whe... Think of evolution like an upside down tree, where the trunk is the original, common ancestor, and the branches are all the descendants of that ancestor. The primitive ape that evolved into humans, also evolved into chimpanzees, gorillas, orang-utans, etc. Along the way, there were many short branches that ended long ago, like neanderthals.<br>-PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-13589916768770881392005-06-18T09:27:00.000-04:002005-06-18T09:27:00.000-04:00Great entry Paul!! You did a wonderful job of expl...Great entry Paul!! You did a wonderful job of explaining things. I might have to bookmark this entry because, although I always understand what I am trying to get across to people about Theories and Proofs, etc... from the blank looks I receive I must assume that the idea gets lost between my brain and my mouth and their ears/brains <g>. <br>http://journals.aol.com/astaryth/AdventuresofanEclecticMindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-71255664942355276952005-06-18T09:41:00.000-04:002005-06-18T09:41:00.000-04:00Paul,I was raised to respect other people's point ...Paul,<br><br>I was raised to respect other people's point of views. While I have my own that may not be of popular belief, I stand by my convictions and am always open to hear others. Thanks for sharing yours!<br><br>http://journals.aol.com/shansa3fan/CookiesForSam/<br>ShanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-14467765559350441172005-06-18T12:51:00.000-04:002005-06-18T12:51:00.000-04:00Paul..awesome entry...ones I love , the debate/ban...Paul..awesome entry...ones I love , the debate/banter with educated speak! In this polar world we will always have the black and white. I applaud how you took your belief and presented it so well. I do not claim to be a scholar on religion, or even have the ability to throw out quotes. I do believe that their is the intertwining of evolution and religion as Chris so nicely put...Whether I correct or incorrect? I dont think it would be a bone crushing event for me. I agree to disagree. I love to learn, so these opportunities presented are perfect to be educated! Nice entry!<br>JodiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-90711194031763325132005-06-18T13:18:00.000-04:002005-06-18T13:18:00.000-04:00Jodi, Thank you for the comment. I have only one...Jodi,<br> Thank you for the comment. I have only one nit to pick with it. That is your description of it as 'my belief.' If I told you I was pretty confident that the sun would come up tomorrow morning, would you refer to that as 'my belief?' If told you that if I jumped off a fence, I would land on the ground, would you characterize that as 'my belief?' If I told you that the grass was green and the sky was blue, would call that 'my belief?'<br>-PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-28034928456894856392005-06-18T13:57:00.000-04:002005-06-18T13:57:00.000-04:00A defenSe of evolution. I'm christian and I can ag...A defenSe of evolution. I'm christian and I can agree with everything you have stated. I don't know how I reconcile the two, I guess I just have a REALLY open mind. Dinosaurs in the Bible!? Since when? I guess the Bible is so vague that you could interpret just about anything in there...<br><br>AriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-54554820927391724102005-06-18T20:21:00.000-04:002005-06-18T20:21:00.000-04:00I saw a discussion, with 2 astrophysicis they ha...<br>I saw a discussion, with 2 astrophysicis they had the latest dna done on the five or so men that supposedly explains mans assension from cave man to modern man.<br>You know the ones that were supposedely neantrol man and paleonlithic and supposed showing man bent over because he once walked on 4 legs.<br><br>Well the dna done on these subjects revealed some startling but not surprising findings. <br>For one thing many of the bones tested did not belong to homosapiens or men, but some had been fabricated from the jaws of a pig. The one with the deepest bend of the spine, had been a man with severe syphillis.<br><br><br>The word of God, in the Bible says every thing is found in its own seed. Corn from corn seed. Oak from an oak tree seed, Bulldog from the sperm of a buldog, and Man from the seed of man. <br><br>This is one of God's fixed laws. Of course man, keeps trying experiments in various labs to try and disprove this, but it is Written !<br><br>Another thing, I read that just before Charles Darwin died he called for his bedside doctor, and denounced the theory of evolution, and confessed that he had gotten the idea from a French Scientist, had earned lots of monies, but was not willing to take a chance on dying without asking God for forgiveness !<br><br><br>Kinda leaves his followers in a sticky situation ! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-39290544530826556262005-06-18T22:02:00.000-04:002005-06-18T22:02:00.000-04:00http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG001.htmlSo...http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG001.html<br><br>Sorry, try again. How about that first story, can you find some more information about that? How about, what would astrophysicists being doing talking about paleontology, genetics, and developmental biology? If you want to argue, start by getting your facts straight. Or, you might start with actually having some facts at all.<br><br>Thanks for commenting in my journal. I appreciate all opinions.<br>-PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-17856608389774604682005-06-18T22:34:00.000-04:002005-06-18T22:34:00.000-04:00My gut tells me this person had to be pulling your...My gut tells me this person had to be pulling your leg... I'm glad to hear that Pharyngula is sometimes too hard to digest for you...I'm waiting for Jay to finish his version. ;) It does make a great journal entry, but at some point, you have to agree to disagree or you are simply playing into the game that says " If I hit you over the head with it enough, you will convert." Excellent entry, dude!! PennyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-48561896044099791572005-06-19T07:33:00.000-04:002005-06-19T07:33:00.000-04:00Excellent entry.VExcellent entry.<br>VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-78281560702238553202005-06-24T14:46:00.000-04:002005-06-24T14:46:00.000-04:00Well said. Rigorous, precise and thoroughly enjoy...Well said. Rigorous, precise and thoroughly enjoyable. <br><br> Based on this alone, I have decided to enter the discussion. <br><br> Look for me on what I shall call "Salt On The Watermelon"<br><br> You heard it "first" here. Thank you for opening the gate.<br><br>Luther<br><br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-20426510588567120592005-06-30T15:10:00.000-04:002005-06-30T15:10:00.000-04:00What a wonderfully thoughtful entry! As a religou...What a wonderfully thoughtful entry! As a religous AND educated person the arguments had me nodding and shaking my head all at the same time. (Now I am dizzy, but only in theory.) <br><br>What about the theory of our souls??? If we can't prove they exist, do they exist even still?<br><br><br>Christina<br><br><br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-47402792404281887422005-08-02T15:10:00.000-04:002005-08-02T15:10:00.000-04:00I always wanted retractable bat wings. Until eithe...I always wanted retractable bat wings. Until either Wall Street or God can provide me with some, I'm an unsatisfied customer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-26049664190567870632005-08-02T15:33:00.000-04:002005-08-02T15:33:00.000-04:00Ok now, question! What is the difference between ...Ok now, question! What is the difference between the word hypothesis and theory?<br>Love,<br>Mariann<br>EdandMariann@aol.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-65581560196519001972005-08-02T15:36:00.000-04:002005-08-02T15:36:00.000-04:00What exactly was an astralapithicus and ramapithic...What exactly was an astralapithicus and ramapithicus then? Sorry sp?<br>Mariann againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-10462637556770611112005-08-02T21:21:00.000-04:002005-08-02T21:21:00.000-04:00Great post Paul...I love it so much because you as...Great post Paul...I love it so much because you asked me to "show you" something earlier, yet here you are basically supporting my position! he he<br><br>Anyhow, there actually are people out there that do not believe evolution ever happened or is happening, & that carbon dating is a farce. I am not one of them. I believe in the science. I believe science and religion work together just fine.<br><br>Interestingly enough though Paul, gravity may not actually be real. But that is a really cool physics thing if you ever care to read about it. You see, I am forced to read these things because my son has been a budding astro-physicist since the age of 8, soon to be 13. Long story... <br><br>Anyhow, I loved it...great entry...and you are right makes good journaling!<br><br>Be well,<br>Dawn<br>http://journals.aol.com/princesssaurora/CarpeDiem/<br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-84198038202546183802005-08-03T00:18:00.000-04:002005-08-03T00:18:00.000-04:00Paul ..I'm glad you re posted this one. I kno...Paul ..I'm glad you re posted this one. I know it is hard to get across to someone who still believes the earth is flat....think they'll believe now it's pumpkin shaped?This post shows a great deal of restraint on your part LOL..thereby proving, in itself that man has evolved!....Sandi http://journals.aol.com/sdoscher458/LifeIsFullOfSurprisesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-36844436046879005192005-08-06T16:53:00.000-04:002005-08-06T16:53:00.000-04:00I've just ended my journey through all the entries...I've just ended my journey through all the entries of CarnivAOL. I must say, that was a brilliant endeaver you've started. I remember this entry, I believe I'd already commented once...I enjoyed it the first time, and absorbed it the second. <br>Rebecca<br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3644871434842902718.post-22364420453382668012005-08-28T13:34:00.000-04:002005-08-28T13:34:00.000-04:00Very interesting. Some would say you can't be...Very interesting. Some would say you can't be a Christian and believe in evolution too. Of course this is not true. <br>I just stumbled across this entry. I was checking out the assignment Scalzi posted where he asked everyone to list their favorite entry from the past year. Glad I visited yours.<br><br>Krissy<br>http://journals.aol.com/fisherkristina/SometimesIThinkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com